Open comments to all Canadian MPs regarding Libya

It was with considerable disbelief and regret and yes even disgust that I heard MPs all talking about Libya in today’s (14th June 2011) so called debate about our terroristic attacks there in support of the IMF and USA and of course UN and the oil companies.

What I heard was a parroting of the “official” CIA, SAS, Mossad propaganda, not what appears to be true to anyone who has followed the Libyan situation over the last 40 years. What I heard time and again was almost word for word what we heard that the American contract soldiers were doing all the time in Iraq, and almost certainly have done in Afghanistan and probably many other countries as well. Are Bush, Cheney under indictment for war crimes from the UN? Don’t think so and anyway they are all welcome here in Canada by the government even if not by the people.

Ms. May, my MP just spoke and said she does not support this motion on behalf of her constituents and she is correctly speaking for me.  She didn’t get it quite right but, it seems, stands alone for what the majority of Canadians really think. Of course she was attacked.  Vote eventually 276 (I think) yeahs – 1 nay. Thank you Ms.May
I heard time and again from the debate that Gaddafi is a brutal man who is killing and raping his people. None of this makes any sense to me, unless we look at it in the same terms as Bush joking:

“Weapons of Mass Destruction, are they under here? no, over there perhaps? no.” , or even more ridiculously after the 9/11 fiasco

“Don’t panic, just go out and shop!”

What monkey sees monkey does, or what you read in the CIA media is gospel. Here we go again into lies, deceit and bombing when all we have is the right to operate is a no fly zone, not clear the way for and conducting bombing runs on Libyan civilians. The criminals here are not Gaddafi but the UN backed killers.

Simple research, which seems beyond the abilities of Canadian MPs, would show just what Gaddafi has done for the Libyans over the last 40 years since he turned his attention away from nurturing foreign terrorists with his training camps etc.,

So again I will show you what my limited research has told me; I do not have unlimited government resources as you do and you could verify what I am saying if you bothered to pay attention to 60% of the Canadian people who do not want us there, in fact want us out. Do you not wonder why?

Proud promises I hear every day in the House about serving your constituents to the best of your abilities are empty and hollow because you follow the party line not your constituents’ wishes. Yet I heard again and again from the House floor today that you are doing what the Canadian people want. According to whom? Not we the people.

So these questions for you:

Do we have free education at all levels including universities at home and abroad? No; but the Libyans do.

Do we have free and efficient medical and dental health? No; but the Libyans do.

Do we have full employment, that is a job for anyone who wants to work or run a business and support their family and community? Nowhere near, but the Libyans do with the exception of the Nomadic tribes.

Does every Canadian who wants one have a home and a car and the ability to support them both? Good grief no, but those Libyans do, although the Nomadic tribes still like to wander the desert and that is their choice.

Is the Libyan desert irrigated with water found under the desert, and used in a huge irrigation scheme to allow the desert to become farmable again? Yes it is, while here in Canada we are poisoning our water supply with mining and fracking to the point where soon we will have no fresh water left, but lots of natural gas for export. Oh yes GMO seeds are taking over here too so we will soon have lots of home grown poisonous food to eat. CETA is in trouble because the EU doesn’t like GMO.

Does Libyan have its own central bank which finances the above mentioned health, education and housing plans, and also supplies free money for business startups? Yes they do and there is no national debt, no deficit and huge monetary donations to other African countries? Actually a huge chunk of money set aside by Libya for the benefit of African countries which need the money has been stolen by the USA on behalf of the IMF which just cannot allow those poor African countries to escape their greedy clutches.

Do Libyans own and control the oil of the country, Yes they do. It pays for everything.
Our oil is owned almost exclusively by foreign owned companies who pay us a minimum royalty, and the bottom line leaves Canada without any benefit to the people.

We also have our own bank – the Bank of Canada – which you refuse to use anymore and we are getting further into debt every day, the deficit is growing every day and the compounding interest on that debt is growing every day, yet we dare to criticize Gaddafi and tell the Libyan people they can do things better if they follow our way?

Even Al Jazeera carries articles and stories about the Libyan people who ask the simple question:
“Why would we want to get rid of a man who has done so much for us?”

So please tell me again just how hard done by these Libyans are by their “brutal dictator” and what are we going to do for them again?

Oh yes we will give them debt, disease and illiteracy.

If we are going to protect civilians everywhere and even Chris Warkentin says we must never let civilians be attacked again, then that means that we must stand by HAMAS to defend the Palestinians against the terroristic attacks by Israel. Protect the Palestinian farmers from being evicted by Israeli settlers, and literally thrown out into the road without even their clothing. I am sure they will welcome our help. That will never happen because you are owned in part by Israel who also helps you determine who comes over our borders. George Galloway will testify to that, and Stockwell Day signed the deal allowing that to happen.

Gaddafi has always been harsh on traitors and rebels and dealt with them strongly, because they are the ones who will eventually hurt his people. These rebels are the “people” he says he will get rid of, not the ordinary Libyan civilian, but easy to twist that isn’t it? Indeed thanks to support both financially and with arms and training, that bunch of rebels, which the Government of Canada is now not only supporting militarily but has also recognised as the legitimate council (government) of Libya, is indeed hurting his people. I have yet to be shown any real evidence that government of Libya forces are deliberately attacking innocent civilians as claimed in the House today by almost everyone who spoke. In a civil war such as this the rebels will hide under the guise of pretending to be civilians to get the kind of sympathy you are giving them. Anything done to them is claimed to be done to civilians, even if they do it themselves.

Classic CIA operation really, they have done it so many times and you fall for it every time.These rebels have the backing of the IMF because the IMF has already established a new central bank which they claim is the real central bank of Libya, designed to make money for the IMF because at the present time they, IMF, are not making any from Libya, and this is unforgivable. A bunch of CIA backed ragtag rebels with their own central bank sponsored by the IMF? doesn’t that make you shudder?

New oil companies have been set up to take over those of the Libyan people and to make money (US$ of course), for foreign oil companies not for the people of Libya. It will only be a question of time before some corporation will want to take over the desert and the agriculture, I assume it will be Monsanto so the bankrupting of the farmers and the poisoning of the Libyans can begin.

There is talk from countries who have forgotten or even never knew the meaning of democracy and certainly do not practice it about establishing democracy in Libya.
Well damn it we do not have democracy here in Canada so what right do you have to tell the Libyans that we will bring them democracy. We don’t have it and never will under our present system, so to promote that talk is farcical and dishonest.

It is time we in Canada and the USA for that matter, recognized that democracy does not exist anywhere in the world, maybe the closest it ever came was in Libya prior to our intervention of behalf of the IMF, USA, Israel and the UN etc.

What we really, in the noble and totally all-knowing west, want to do is bring Libya down to our level of enslavement, standard of living and total indebtedness to the IMF, subservience to the robber investors such as Goldman Sachs and their futures rip offs, to the pharmaceutical corporations, insurance, seed and oil companies who have no interest in anything but money. We want to make sure that Libya comes down to our level, because by golly no-one should be better than us eh?

My question is what about the Libyans, who is listening to them in the west?

Oh silly question, you are not listening to Canadians so why would you listen to any Libyans other than the “rebels”?

We really need a huge make over here in Canada, staring with our so called representatives in Parliament.

Jeremy Arney

The USA wants what Libya has

40 years ago things were very different in so many ways, and this is the strangest turnaround of them all.


Libya under Gaddafi was in trouble with the UN and his hands were smacked and he decided to change his ways from being a terrorist supporting country to a peaceful self-supporting country.

 The central bank was nationalized as were the oil wells and refineries.  Through
having Libya own these two and thus having a great source of income and no international bank debt he turned Libya into a sort of paradise.

 He looked for and found water under the desert and by making his canal system he irrigated the desert and agriculture flourished providing the country with its own food.  Everyone had free health care, free education including university level either in Libya or abroad, paid for by the government. Everyone who wanted one had a job, a house and a car, and cheap gas. Interest free money was available to start a business or buy a second car. The Nomadic tribes still today prefer to wander the desert so they have no
houses.  Gaddafi himself travelled with a tent until his people had houses, and even now lives in a rather modest place. The life expectancy is now 80, and life in Libya, apart from the constant niggling of foreign sponsored rebels, is good.

 At the same time, that is 40 years ago, a broken down ex actor, ex-Governor of California became the president of the USA and started to deregulate everything that should have stayed regulated.  Banks, insurance, financial and investment
companies, the pharmaceutical and seed companies took control of their own
regulating and the religious nuts were invited into the office of the president
to have a level of control never dreamed of, in fact specifically not wanted,
by the founding fathers. The USA started to flounder as a republic. Reaganomics
started the world controlled by the World Bank and IMF downhill to financial destruction.
World corporate rule is to my mind the destruction of the people of the world.
People do not have a bottom line and are therefore dispensable, except that
they need to, as G W Bush put it, “Go out and shop” in order to feed the

 Now here we are 40 years later, Libya is a flourishing country with the only problem being the constant flow of money and arms to rebels from such organizations as the CIA, SAS, Mossad etc., with the idea that the US could get their hands on Libya’s oil.  What I also think might well be a factor is that desert water.  Water will soon be more valuable than oil.

 On the other hand the USA is morally andfinancially broke, uneducated and sick, and like a rabid dog is snapping and biting at anything that has what it believes is its right to have.

 Then it was decided that as the IMF was losing too much money because Libya was not borrowing from it and did not owe them anything, and the oil companies were not getting their profits from the oil so it became time to act. When the Arab Spring as it was called happened it was just too easy to freshly arm these rebels, give them the promise of
paradise and accuse Gaddafi of killing his people. The fact is he has always
been hard on traitors and rebels and maybe Canada and the USA could learn from
that as The House of Commons, and the Congress listen to big corporations not
the people.

That is treason against our constitutions.
Gaddafi’s people do not want him gone; they also do not want to become a democracy if that means they will be broke, out of work, hungry, unhealthy and uneducated just as most North Americans are.

 But the IMF and the oil companies stepped in creating a new central bank, and new oil companies for the rebels and are telling lies about Gaddafi and so the whole word which is controlled and owned by the IMF is agreeing that he should go.

 Everyone that is but the Libyans.

 It would be ironic if the IMF at the behest of China, demanded that Obama and Harper be replaced but we know that will not happen as we are already heavily in debt to the IMF anyway.

 So that’s where we are now.

 What a crazy world we are leaving our grandchildren.


Jeremy Arney


As a Canadian I do not approve of any of this action against Libya and particularly our part in bombing civilians and blaming it on Gaddafi. It is regrettable that one of ours is leading this sham.

Musings of an old man from last year

Maybe to go another way?

I have been wondering what is really
wrong with our system of politics here in Canada, and it leads me to realize some
very simple truths, probably the biggest of which is that:


Today’s government is not for the people
and hasn’t been for some years now.


Oh I know there are those who say I am
just supporting some sort of corporate takeover conspiracy, and maybe they are
right, but let’s really look at what has gone wrong.


There was a time when members of the
House of Parliament or the Provincial  Legislature were representatives of the people
of their ridings , a throw back to the “good old days” of England when they
represented the landowners who spoke for their surfs…! Far from ideal but for
that time it worked as well as any system had.


Even the American system with it’s checks
and balances for the three levels of government, Administration, Congress and
Judiciary was a great idea for a republic.


So again what happened?


Groups of elected people (mostly men at
that time- in fact probably all men) got together for each other’s ideas to be
presented and accepted by the level of government, simply put,

I like this, that, your idea and will support you. Will you also support my

It seemed that this lead to the eventual
formation of like minded getting together to make life easier than canvassing
every other member, and thus the development of parties that started the
wielding of power as each party sought  to have the final say.

Naturally this had to spread to the
voting public so that each party could come up with a proposal or “platform”
from which the voters were asked to choose. Of course by then the concept of
party leaders was established and we were on the slippery slope to where we are
today where one man controls the lives of every man woman and child in Canada, even if
he does not have the majority of Canadian behind him. Nor does it even matter
if he chooses to promote the benefits of corporations over the people, he is
the supreme “God” of Canada as he can make and break the rules with impunity,
and thumb his nose at the people because he really only needs them at an
election time of his choosing.


How far we have come from:


Our self
governing Dominions are united by the ties of a common allegiance to the Crown:
but the Crown has become the symbol of the people’s sovereignty.

According to our
concept and practice of government, the King reigns to execute the will of the
people who rule.  The strength of the
Empire rests upon the eternal foundation of liberty expressed in the ideal and
consummation of autonomous self-government which is vested in the people of the
self-governing Dominions as of right and not of grace.                             – Sir Robert
Borden. 29th
December 1914

Obviously in his day it was the King and
now it is the Queen, and her present representative described it this way:


Our executive is
the Queen, who doesn’t live here. Her representative is the Governor General,
who is an appointed buddy of the Prime Minister.

Harper  June 1997


In an address to the Council for National
Policy (an American republican group) at which he also said:


“Canada is a Northern European welfare state
in the worse sense of the term, and very proud of it”.

The History of the party system in Canada shows
that the system only works when the interests of the people are the same interests
of the ruling party. Our current government is a prime example of what can
happen when those interests are diametrically opposite to each other.


So is there a solution?


Yes there are two that immediately c0me
to mind.


One is the Single Transferable Vote used
in some other countries and retained for instance in Ireland although the politicians
there wish to get rid of it.  This is
relatively cumbersome and like all voting today, subject to the ability of
certain  interests to manipulate the
outcome in the voting machines.


The other I find much more


Abolish all party politics.


Yes that’s right no parties at all.

No pre-ordained leader for whom to vote
regardless of the quality of the local candidate.  

No overall platform, just the
constituents and their candidates who wish to represent them.

Now we are getting to the quality of the candidates
and away from the lying ability of the leader of some party or another.

So you ask what then when the members are
elected what happens?   

All members of the House of Commons elect
from their fellow members 15 members to head up the various cabinet posts.   There are no party lines and no need for
shadow ministers or critics as those ministers would be reporting directly to
the House of Commons, not just blindly and obediently following the PM’s


Those 15 members select from the
remaining members two person,


One as Speaker of the House, and


One as Speaker for Canada, that would be
the Prime Minister although he or she would not have a ministry (no change
there) but would represent Canada and her people to the world through the
decisions of the ministers with the House of Commons members’ approval. Each
event the prime minister attended would be with the minister responsible for
that event.  In the event of weddings,
state funerals etc., he would be accompanied by the governor general. Another
useless position? Maybe, but a certain level of pomp and ceremony is good.

In the event that a minister or even the
“Prime Minister” lost the confidence of the House he could be replaced by a
simple vote in the House.


This same system should and could also
apply to all provinces, but with a smaller cabinet in the various legislatures.


If we are to return to the Canadian
People having a say in the way our Government works then we must have the
control to be able to stop the government when they want to do anything against
our wishes.  


Simple question…Whose country is it? 


I think it belongs to the people – all
the people not just a few.


To whom does it belong now?


Harper as PM, and his corporate buddies.


I welcome improvements to the idea.


Jeremy Arney

9-11 to civil disobedience

A couple of years ago I was in the UK, and I asked a military man I have known for many many years what he really thought about the events that happened in the USA and that we now refer to as 9-11.

Without much hesitation he said that the attacks were carried out by a bunch of cowardly thugs, acting on some misconceived religious beliefs.

So I then asked him if he would be willing to listen to what I had to say and ask and give me some purely military answers and he replied after some though that he could and would.

What I said was something like this:

OK thanks, so now let’s take what we were told almost immediately after the attacks and that is that 14 people were responsible for the actual acts of the day. There were reportedly 4 planes involved which means three and a half people per plane which is odd but let’s not quibble about that. Two of those planes with 7 people in charge hit two buildings in New York killing approximately 3,000 people.

So looking at it purely from a military view point would you consider that 7 people taking out 3,000 with equipment belonging to Americans was a success?

After looking at me for a minute or two he eventually agreed that it was very acceptable odds indeed.

So I then went on to to say, Ok so then when you add in the complete destruction of three buildings as well, and the resulting damage to the psyche of the USA it could be argued that it was a huge military success carried out by 7 people.

He was now lo0oking at me strangely but reluctantly this time and then more enthusiastically as he agreed that it was a fantastic achievement militarily. All that damage by just 7 people!

So I then said that in my mind it was not a success because the buildings should had held up to 20, 000 people each at that time of day and if the planes had hit at the twentieth floor instead of where they did the death toll could have been between 30 – 40,ooo instead of just 3,000. It is also amazing in that not one Israeli who normally worked in those buildings showed up for work that day.

But they couldn’t have got to the twentieth floor was all he could bleat.

Ah I said why not? Because here is where we have to consider the other two planes.

One is claimed to have performed a maneuver that 95% of commercial pilots who fly those planes said they could not do (and the other 5% said was impossible) and then fly a 120 foot wingspan plane between two poles 90 feet apart which would have either broken the wings or the poles would have been smashed flat ( they are still standing whilst we talk) and then flew into the pentagon, without the resulting fire one would expect from burning aviation fuel, not to mention the plane wreckage and passengers’ bodies left behind.

Before we get to the fourth plane lets us look at this too, we saw over and over and over again the two planes flying into those two buildings in New York and the falling of those towers from multiple angles, (not I might add building “ seven” which most people in the world are unaware also collapsed that day within hours from collateral damage!) and yet at a building which has more cameras per square foot inside and out than any other building in the USA and maybe the world, we did not get even a glimpse of a real passenger plane approaching or flying into the Pentagon. So if you can believe that one of the people flying that plane could have done that then the twentieth floor of the two trade centre buildings would be child’s play.

About building Seven, the BBC reported that it had collapsed and at what time and yet over the shoulder of that poor misinformed woman reporter, for all the world to see, the building was still standing and not even smoking that much!

To the fourth plane, the one they made a movie about just to get Hollywood in on the act, was supposed to be heading for the White House but was actually shot down by the Navy so they claim, and again there was no wreckage, just a big hole in the ground without any plane wreckage or bodies for the local coroners to remove, not even a trace of the 3.5 people who supposedly hijacked it.

What about that I asked my military friend. He was looking rather sick at this point and gazed pityingly at me as I smiled at him. He just walked away and has spoken very little to me since. Too bad because I believe he is a good man at heart.

He was ex military when this discussion took place.

So the point here is that since then we have been lied to by the presidents of the USA, the UN, the prime minister of Canada and the heads of the European countries, and of course the media so often that we just seem to accept what they say.

Who was it who said “If you tell a lie often enough it becomes accepted as the truth”.

Weapons of mass destruction were never found in Iraq and how many millions died over what G W Bush considered a joke?

Bin Laden was supposedly killed a few weeks ago, conveniently at a time when lies were being spread about Gaddafi slaughtering thousands of his people.

There is not one shred of evidence that this has or is happening, yet it is lied about in the US Congress, the UN, in our Senate in the throne Speech a few days ago, and none of the media point this out. Al Jazeera (English) has interviews of Libyans asking “why would we want to get rid a man who has done so much for us?’ But Fox news and the Sun and yes the BBC and CBC and ITV and CTV in fact all of them fall all over themselves to further the lie. The printed media is just as bad.

A young page Brigette DePape objecting in the throne speech in the Canadian Senate to what Harper is doing and is going to do is more newsworthy than the truth about Libya. Actually she is, because it is our youth here in Canada who are beginning to say no to the future they see Harper bringing to Canada.. That young woman said we need an “arab spring” here in Canada and she is right. I will stand beside her if the occasion should arise.

I have been saying for months that the only choice we will soon have is mass civil disobedience, because our needs are not important to those who are employed by us to work for us and who think they rule the country. In fact I suppose that more than any other man in our history Harper really does think this. He controls the House of Commons, the speaker of same, the Senate, the Supreme Court, The Governor General, the money to the provinces and therefore the provinces, and he has had this desire for years to change Canada into a corporately controlled wasteland.

Supposedly he has 5 years to do it, yes I know he passed a law saying every 4 years but that’s all bs anyway he’s only broken it twice so far, and what’s to stop him extending it to 20 years or more with the power he has at his command now?

But I get ahead of myself because I keep forgetting that he wants Canada to be part of the USA.

To the 40% of the 60% who voted Harper in, I just say on behalf of my children and grandchildren, thank you for what you have done to their future, and I hope you all live long enough to see what he will do with what you gave him.

Jeremy Arney